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    January 22, 2013
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the spending priority. i believe america needs to see that. i believe if we have any hope as conservatives to take back the united states senate we have expose the guys and gals for what they are. >> and i hope that it's really the case -- again, the bill has to be goes to the senate and be signed by the president. the senate has to agree we're going put them online. ..
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at 9:00 a.m. eastern, she will testify at a senate foreign relations committee hearing. at 2:00 p.m., she will be of the house foreign affairs committee. he will we will have live coverage of both of the hearings on c-span3 and online at
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c-span.org. you are watching c-span2 with politics and public affairs we face featuring live coverage. and every week in the latest non-fiction authors and books on booktv. you can join in the conversation online. >> in his first state of the state address, indiana governor mike pence talked about the state of indiana's condition. this is about a half hour.
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[applause] [applause] [inaudible conversations] [applause] >> speakers, lieutenant
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governor, senators and representatives, members of the general assembly and distinguished guests and indiana's people, i am proud to stand before you as governor of all the people of indiana. [applause] we are all hoosiers and i know that together we will writes a great chapter of the next in the book of indian history. my colleagues that are gathered here, i think my remarks will not be as brief as last week's inaugural address. but, your feet will be warmer. [laughter]
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and discharging my solemn duty, i come before you today to proclaim the state of our state is strong and growing stronger. because we have good government. and because we serve the great people of indiana. [applause] if we will remain bold, confident, and optimistic, i am positive that we can lead our state from good to great. hoosiers believed that of gratitude to all gathered in this room. our state has become the fiscal envy of the nation. a model for how the government works. we balanced budgets and we have surpluses. most states are broke and struggling. one of only nine states with a aaa bond rating. higher than the federal government. while we rightly celebrate our
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progress, it is important to note that these are still difficult times for many in our state. as we gather this evening, a quarter of a million hoosiers are out of work. nearly 1 million black the basic skills they need to succeed in today's marketplace. too many of our schools are still lagging behind. some way behind. especially heartbreaking to this father. one in five hoosier children lives in poverty. that is simply unacceptable. [applause] with so many families and businesses struggling to get by, we have no choice but to remain bold. we have to do better, and we will do better. in doing and doing better, it starts with the right priorities. by adopting a roadmap that says
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yes to our future and believes in the unlimited potential of our people. it starts by making job creation the first job in this assembly and all over this state. [applause] that is why on day one of our administration, i signed a moratorium on any new regulations to ensure that indiana is not burdening hoosier employers with unnecessary red tape. that is why we proposed a job budget last week. our budget is awfully balanced and holds line on spending and funds our priorities and builds our reserves. and it lets hard-working hoosiers keep more of what they earn. let's be clear. government doesn't create jobs
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other than government jobs. people can be the risktakers and innovators and they will create the jobs and opportunities of tomorrow. everything starts with fiscal discipline. it is the surest foundation for economic growth. first, we submit our honest budget with no tax increases. secondly, our budget holds line on spending. i think the government budget should never grow faster than the family budget. our budget is a full percentage point less than inflation. by holding the line on spending, indiana can continue to stand out as a beacon of fiscal restraint. the state that knows how to fund its priorities into a responsible way.
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our budget funds our priorities. it proposes an increase in funding for education. including full-day kindergarten and we fully fund the teachers pension each of the next two years. [applause] education funding represents 64% of our state expenditures. in addition, we provide $18 million over the next few years to ensure that all hoosier workers have the skills that they need to find a job in today's economy. [applause] since i believe that we need new jobs, we are investing nearly $350 million in excess reserves on indiana's roads and bridges and infrastructure of today and tomorrow.
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[applause] our budget creates a partnership and because indiana is agriculture, we envision our state becoming a hub of agricultural breakthroughs by supporting the development of an agricultural court order. indiana will continue to lead across the midwest and the world. [applause] our budget also ensures that the indiana economic development corporation is adequately equipped to attract more to the hoosier state and to operate with greater transparency and accountability to the public. [applause]
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lastly, it was abraham lincoln said that we must quote, care for him to who have borne the battle. in indiana, our veterans are hurt. and they need our help. believe it or not, post 9/11 veterans have an unemployment rate higher than the national average. we have to do better. we owe these heroes nothing less. he graduated in 2006, he decided to join the army in iraq and afghanistan for his first deployment in 2001. one night the convoy came under attack in a rocket propelled grenade push the copperplate through, basically destroying his left leg.
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nevertheless, he was able to hold a 250-pound door in place, saving the lives of likely everyone in the vehicle. he has had two dozen surgeries since and most recently was a year ago. last fall he got married and did his first 5k. big tim is an american hero. he is with us tonight. [applause] [applause]
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our budget makes clear commitment to hurt and jim hoosiers who served our union and certifying veterans service officers. i have also set a goal in our administration to prepare contracts for veteran owned businesses. they have stepped forward for us and now it is our turn. [applause] finally, our budget puts taxpayers first. i believe government should only collect what it needs. it should return money to hard-working the hard-working taxpayers who earned it in the first place. [applause] that is why i am proposing that we lower income taxes by 10% across-the-board for every future over the next two years.
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hoosiers work hard and they labor in a tough economy. they save and invest and family and businesses and family farms. why wouldn't we want to let them keep more of what they earn? i know that there are some who say we must choose between meeting a priorities than letting them keep their dollars, but our budget clearly shows that we can do both. if funds are priorities and still maintains reserves well in excess what we need for unforeseen contingencies. let's be honest. we can afford to do this. but why cut taxes now? at a time when federal taxes have just gone up on all working hoosiers, most small businesses and family farms, now more than ever, hoosiers can use in tax relief.
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this reduction will unleash a half billion dollars to hoosiers. it's the best way to lower taxes on family businesses and farms. 92% pay their taxes under the individual income tax rate. by lowering the personal income tax rate by 10%, it will be official. indiana will be the lowest taxed state in the midwest. [applause] we might just have to put that on the welcome to indiana sign. because we can afford to cut
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taxes for every hoosier. i believe that we should. on behalf of millions, with i ask for your support. let's give the people of indiana tax relief they deserve. [applause] our jobs budget is about getting this economy moving. but we can't succeed in marketplace we don't see it in the classroom. we have to put kids first and make sure that every child has access to a world class education at a public school, a charter school, or at home, we have no higher priority than education of our children. [applause] i'm sure everyone the chamber has a favorite teacher.
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mine is sitting right up in the balcony. on the first lady. karen pence. my wife has spent her career in the classroom and indiana has the best teachers in the world. most people tell you about your favorite teacher, they tell you about their favorite food held them to high standards of most teachers know that setting high expectations works. we believe that as well. indiana teachers and schools have shown that they will make great games for kids. this october, we learn that 207 schools received high school ranking for the first time in 43 schools, moved up three letter grades. they moved from the lowest ranking to midranking and this is a testament to the excellence of our teachers and administrators and proves that accountability will make a
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difference for our kids. [applause] now, when it comes to education, we should seek to fund excellence. that is why we propose an increase of funding for schools for the next two years. with a second year based on schools performance. an additional $6 million in excellent grants to pay for our high-performing teachers. [applause] we have to continue to make steps. we have to make every third-grader have the opportunity to read and make progress with our graduation rate. we can also cut the red tape that teachers face in the classroom and let them teach.
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[applause] i have also long believed that children should be able to go to school with her parents choose. beginning with pre-k education. high-quality programs can have immediate and long-term effects that are positive for the kids. communities are launching efforts to provide pre-k programs for at-risk children. one of the best examples is the busy bees academy, that serves disadvantaged at-risk kids. we need to make sure that all of our at-risk kids are taken care
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of. this fall, over 9000 students attended the school of their choice in this program. like kennedy davis and her brother isaiah. the davis family used the voucher program to send kennedy to first grade at school for choice. kennedy and isaiah are thriving. they are amazing kids. they are with us today. join me in welcoming this wonderful family that has benefited by the people of indiana.
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[applause] keep it up kids. indiana is proud of both of you. we have made progress in showing we can do more by expanding tax deductions and adopting special needs and military families would be a good start. we want to make sure that our schools work for our kids. whether they are headed for college or want to start her career right outside of school. let's be clear that every hoosier child should be encouraged to go to college. but we must also work to make sure that our kids are college ready into a better job at it. and make college more affordable. to that end, we are proposing to
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increase funding for state-sponsored colleges and universities and we want to try the funding to mourn affordable education for all future families. [applause] even as we encourage all children go to college, not everyone of them is college-bound. but we should work just as well for kids that want to get a job as we do for kids who want a college degree. i believe the time has come to make technical and vocational education a priority in every school in the state of indiana again. [applause]
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i propose that we create regional works councils work with business and educators across the state and develop regional demand driven curriculum to bring high-paying career options for hoosiers and don't think for a minute that career and vocational education is about limiting the education of some of our kids. bill and his wife when he got there with us. but it was hard to get them here. his new albany-based businesses is booming. now, when i visited his company last summer, we talked. and bill told me that he grew up
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on a farm not far from albany as a teenager and his dad walked up to him and said bell, your brother is good at book when it comes that he's going to college, but you're good with your hands, so you're going to vocational school. so bill went to vocational school. he and i stood on a catwalk overlooking this extraordinary, bustling area, and i set it turns out you're done was right. and to me, excuse me? and i said you are good with your hands. look at what they built. will you join me in commending bill and when he got for being an example of the american dream in the hoosier state? [applause]
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it can launch entrepreneurs and give kids a reason to build here and to grow here. i believe that society can be judged by how it deals with its most horrible. the disabled and human life. that is why we try to meet the
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needs of our most vulnerable families. that is where budget calls for increased funding by $35 million. so we can protect the lives of children are additional caseworkers and supervisors and invest in an emergency hotline. [applause] [applause] an intact family is one of the surest guard against poverty. that's why i signed an order to ensure that new rules and regulations do not unfairly impact married to. families. nothing in this approach
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diminishes in any way. my wife was ways -- my wife was raised by a single parent. i believe indiana should seek ways to encourage strong, healthy families. our kids and our communities and our state. [applause] road ahead of us will not be easy, but if nothing else, we
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have shown that we will do anything and build schools a promise and policies that ensure opportunities in this year and the next. we can hold the line on spending and we must invest in schools and roads and seek ways to support the states most horrible citizens even as we strengthen the institutions that nurture the character of our people. we can make indian efforts. first in job creation. first and the quality of life together. we will build a more prosperous future. together we will open doors of educational opportunity for all of our kids. together we will approach our third century with confidence. with faith in him who strengthens the hands of a pioneer forebears, and a boundless faith in all of you, i
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say from my heart that indiana's best days are yet to come. let's get to work. thank you. god bless you. may god continue to bless our beloved indiana and all who call her home. [applause] [applause] [applause]
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>> this joint convention is now adjourned. >> we are adjourned. [inaudible conversations] coming up next, priorities of the 113th congress will be discussed. he is followed by congressman lou chery.
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talking bout the rerouting of the keystone pipeline and the essential economic impact. "washington journal" is live at 7:00 a.m. eastern everyday on c-span. >> from the very start, organized military has always spent a lot of time fighting irregular warfare. and it doesn't make a lot of sense. that is one of the big takeaways i have from doing research for this book. we think somehow that conventional warfare is the norm and we ought to be on the open. those always been the exception. just think about the more modern world. this is a hard question to answer. in fact, it was the russian invasion of georgia in 2008 which didn't last very long, and
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yet all over the world today, there are people who are dying in wars, whether it is afghanistan or syria or congo were many other countries, all these people are being ravaged by unconventional warfare. >> this weekend on booktv, military historian max boot on the history of guerrilla warfare at 7:00 p.m. eastern on c-span2. >> in the first senate sessions of the presidential inauguration, senate leaders talked about what they hope to achieve in this congress. we will hear first from harry reid, followed by mitch mcconnell. this is 10 minutes. >> mr. president, today with the second inauguration of president obama,r eve there is prominenceh prosperity for every american.
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like martin luther king junior, whose birth that we also celebrated yesterday. stepn even when you don't see the whole staircase, we have faith that the members of the 113tho congress will realize the promise of prosperity. ill be chd not by our divisions but by renewed cooperation and compromise. i urge every woman and man fortunate enough serve in this chamber to remember it is possible to hold fast to your principles while making compromises necessary to move our country forward. democrats will hold fast to the guiding principle that a strong middle class and an opportunity for every american to enter the middle class is the key to this nation's success. democrats will stand strong.
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strong with a standard of balance and will remain resolute in pursuit of fairness for all americans regardless of where they were born, regardless of their religion or their sexual orientation. those principles will direct our course as we introduce our first ten bills today, a tradition we've had in the united states senate. that is the majority party introduces the first ten bills. as we mend our broken immigration system, strengthen our schools and rebuild our roads and infrastructure we look to those measures in the bills. we balance the right to bear arms with regard to every right of children. we will balance spending reductions with revenue from the wealthiest among us. those principles will ensure
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military members never struggle for employment. those principles must be our guide. not a single piece of important legislation can pass the senate or become law without the votes of both democrats and republicans. so we'll be willing to compromise and work with our colleagues across the aisle. unfortunately, a number of bipartisan bills passed the senate during the last congress that were never acted upon by the house of representatives. so this year the senate will revisit some of those legislative priorities that pass on a bipartisan basis. we'll take up the violence against women. this is an important piece of legislation that has expired. we'll take up the farm bill which was a revolutionary piece of legislation that would save the country up to $24 billion. we would again revisit the historic reforms to save the united states postal service and legislation to make whole the victims of hurricane sandy. each of these initiatives passed
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the senate on a bipartisan basis but was left to languish by the house. the senate will continue to help our fellow americans to help with hurricane sandy before another similar disaster strikes. hundreds of thousands of homes and businesses were destroyed in new york, new jersey and new england and tens of thousands of americans were left homeless by this destructive storm. we have a responsibility to aid our country men as they rebuild their lives and communities as we have after terrible floods, fires and storms in other parts of our nation. once we complete that vital legislation, the senate will take action to make this institution that we all love -- the united states senate -- work more effectively. we'll consider changes in the senate rules. because of this -- because this matter warrants additional debate, we will follow the precedent set in 2005 and again in 2011 to reserve the right of all senators to propose changes in the senate rules and we will explicitly not act in
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acquiescing in carrying out all rules in the congress. the senate will recess today rather than adjourn to carry out conversation on this important legislation this month. i'm confident we'll reach an agreement that allows the senate to operate more effectively in the coming months. the presiding officer: the republican leader. mr. mcconnell: mr. president, i want to start by congratulating president obama on his inauguration. presidential inaugurations are always a time for the country to come together. we all feel a certain pride in the event and we're reminded how fortunate we are to live in a nation where we have the ability to resolve differences freely.
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inauguration day is a time for new beginnings, a chance to learn from the mistakes and missed opportunities from the past as we reengage in vitally important debates about our future. too often over the past four years political considerations trumped the need to put our country on a sound financial footing and a path to prosperity. today we should recommit ourselves to the task of facing up to the problems head on. i understand that the passions of an election can sometimes overshadow the business of governing, but the presidential campaign is now behind us, and so it's my hope that the president will finally be willing to do what republicans have been asking him to do since his first inauguration four years ago and that is to work weus -- with us in solving problems, to put aside what we
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know we can't agree on and focus on what we can agree on. we should start with spending and debt because if we don't get a handle on that, nothing else matters. if we don't work together to strengthen our entitlement programs, they will go bankrupt. all the cuts will be forced on -- automatic cuts will be forced on seniors rendering worthless the promises they built their retirements around. it is nice to say, as the president did yesterday, these programs free us to take the risks that make our country great. but if we don't act to strengthen and protect them now, in a few years they simply won't be there in their current form if we don't work together to control the debt, the cost of our interest payments alone will eventually crowd out funding for things we all agree on from defense to infrastructure and assistance for those who need it most. in short, the debate we're
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engaged in is about much more than numbers on a page. it's about the cost of inaction in terms of promises broken, jobs lost, and dreams deferred. and that's why there's simply no more time to waste. over the past four years while the president focused on reelection and senate democrats focused on avoiding tough decisions, the debt grew by more than $6 trillion. we saw the president blast house republicans for doing their job and passing a budget while senate democrats didn't even propose one. and rather than work with us to save existing entitlements, we saw the president team up with democrats in congress to force through a brand-new entitlement that will make it even harder to cover the cost of programs that we already have. in short, democrats put off the hard stuff until now. and our proubs have only -- and our problems have only gotten
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worse. but that was the first term. the second term presents the opportunity to do things differently. and in the senate that means a return to regular order. later this week the house plans to send the senate a bill to address the debt limit in a timely manner. once we get it, the senate should quickly respond. if the senate version is different than the one the house sends over, send it to conference. that's how things are supposed to work around here. we used to call it legislating. i know a lot of democrats are afraid of a process that exposes their priorities, particularly on spending and debt. after nearly four years of refusing to pass a budget, they have only now reluctantly agreed to balance a spending plan for the coming fiscal year. since the revenue question has been settled i'm sure the american people are eager to see what other ideas the democrats might have to bring down our ruinous deficits.
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let me say one thing americans will no longer tolerate is an attitude that says we can put off our work until the very last minute. they're tired of 11th hour deals. tired of 11th hour deals. they're tired of careening from crisis to crisis. and so am i. the good news is a return to regular order is the surest way to solve the problems we face, and i hope some of my friends on the other side will agree that there is value in this body actually functioning the way it was intended to. let's face it, the status quo isn't working. the senate isn't functioning as it should. and it has nothing to do with a process that has served us well for a very long time. but if we work together and strive to avoid some of the bad habits we've developed around here i believe we'll be able to achieve the solutions that have
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eluded us for the past four years and develop positive results for the people who sent us here with time to spare. we can do better. i know my constituents expect better than what they have been getting from congress in recent years, and so should we. years, and so should we.
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era which is deficit and debt. until we fix that problem we cannot leave behind for our children we cannot leave behind the kind of america that our parents left behind for months. >> 1064 days since democrats brought a budget to the senate floor. many of her colleagues don't even remember going through the budget committee. our national debt now exceeds $16.4 trillion, $52,000 for every man and woman and child in america, demonstrates the failure of that policy. if you could call it that.
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i want to congratulate the house for correcting people's attention to bring a budget to the floor, and i think the appropriate sanction is no budget and no pay. that is just me talking, but i believe that that is a good message. everybody in america understands the importance of passing and having a budget and family, and small business, and they understand that is one of the causes or contributes to the federal government spending money it doesn't have, borrowing $40 for that. >> we look forward to having a vigorous debate over america's future.
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>> we were reminded yesterday that this was a liberal president who had a liberal agenda. which is why spending and debt will probably not included in the speech. we have to believe that the biggest threat to america's future is runaway spending. debt is piling up and as my colleagues have noted, it has been almost four years than since the united states has acted on a budget. ipads didn't exist last time that the senate passed the budget. they came round in april 2010 in the senate hasn't acted on a budget since april 2009. we hope that the president will focus on what is really important for the future of this country and that is the need for a sustainable fiscal path forward and a growing economy and policies that promote job creation and growth. those are the things we are anxious to work with as president on. but what we have heard very little of during a speech
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yesterday. >> on election night the president spoke and said that we want our children to grow up where they are not burdened by debt. that was election night. in december, the president said that spending is the problem, which is i believe why the credit rating industry came out the ratings a week ago and they said in the absence of a credible deficit reduction plan that the united states would be downgraded with regard to credit. in spite of the fact that the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff said that the greatest threat to our national security was our debt. democrats in the senate are now going to have to make a choice. do they agree with the president, that spending is not a problem, or did they agree with their constituents at home for focus on the fact that they are burdening our children and grandchildren with a mountain of
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debt, burying them under that mountain of debt. i just got back from wyoming where people continue to be very concerned and anxious about the debt for their kids and grandkids. the chance for freedom and opportunity is lost in as the debt continues to increase. this is an announcement that the obama campaign will transport transition to not-for-profit that the campaign. the last four years not use the kind of results i would think that the president would want to produce. he has a double down on the strategy of the last four years. one of the things he said was we are limiting solving problems. if the president of the united
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states has given up on the system, that's a @-at-sign. we need to work together. i thought the speech yesterday show that we need to move toward solutions rather than talk about things that cannot possibly be achieved if we are going to solve the problems of the country faces. >> i think the greatest responsibility we have as american citizens is to make certain that the american dream can be lived by those who follow us. in my view, the greatest threat we have that we have to be able to pursue the american dream and america is debt and deficit. we have no choice but to deal with this issue. it will be thought of as a responsible not raise the debt ceiling. in my view, it is changing the
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way we do business here, starting with the approval of the budget. it is compassionate to spend money, how can it be compassionate that is the next generation. there is no question but what the debt and deficit is a drag on that opportunity. we have a responsibility for american citizens to right this wrong. >> said on the senate budget committee and i can say that the most disappointing part of having served the last two years is a relatively new member, it blows my mind that the senate democrats were not willing to do a budget when you're over $16 trillion in debt. we talked about the ipad that has come into existence during the 40 or so we haven't had a budget. i have a 5-year-old son named
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jacob. so most of his lifetime we have not had a budget. the failure to prioritize spending. and i think about that, i know it's about him. if we can do a budget for this country and we can't prioritize spending and have a fiscal blueprint, to make sure that we get ourselves on a responsible path, it's not all of us are my 5-year-old son and every child in this nation. what future they will have in this great country. >> okay, we will take a couple of questions. [inaudible conversations] >> let me reiterate what i think is clear to everyone. new year's eve is a practical
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matter where taxes were not for everyone at midnight. senate republicans and a majority of the house voted to make 99% of the bush tax cuts permanent. thereby preventing another event like new year's eve. that came about because the law sunsetted. i would venture to say there is not a single republican vote in the house or senate to provide more revenue. we know that revenue is not the problem. had the president been able to get all the revenue he wanted by raising taxes on everyone making about $250,000 per couple, he would be able to operate the government about eight days. this is a spending problem.
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the revenue issue is behind us. whatever new taxes the president is going to get, he got. the operation of law, we are now going to focus on the real problem, which is not to be taxed too little, but that we spend too much. and that is where we are. >> i have a couple of thoughts about the debt ceiling in general. it has been used over 20 times since the 1950s for major spending reform new paragraph
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>> in august 2011, it was attached to the spending. it is quite the norm to raise the debt ceiling and do something about deficit and debt. i call upon senate democrats on the senate to follow the regular order. the debt ceiling can originate in either house, the senate finance committee could generate a debt ceiling proposal and they could do it if they wanted to. try to embrace some spending reductions, but i think what the house is saying is they are hoping to act soon as maybe tomorrow and it will be incumbent upon the senate majority to function.
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we look forward to seeing what the senate democrats recommend. we look forward to seeing what they recommend. it's time for them to function. [inaudible conversations] >> as all of you know, the majority of the senate will determine what the majority is and we will be happy to look at what the majority leaders will bring forward to the full senate.
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>> what did you think of the presidential inaugural address? >> i think it was disappointing i don't think it's a great way to start off a second term. i think it is quite disturbing. [inaudible conversations] >> welcome back, everyone.
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let's have a celebration. the first time we have been able to sit down together as a group. we have more female members serving now than ever before. we have so many issues facing us as a body. as we deal with each of them, democrats are guided by a single principal. what we can to protect the middle class. this clear distinction has emerged between democrats and republicans for several years. as we begin this congress, we are very aware of the enormous trust in the responsibility that
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goes with that. so i hope in the coming months we can do with the american people expect us to do and who the daily life of everyday americans. i had a meeting. we are hopefully optimistic that something can be done really soon. [inaudible question] >> any questions you have on the budget, patty murray is the question person to ask. in the meantime, talk to patty
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murray. [inaudible conversations] >> we are going to focus on the house budget bill. i'm very glad that they are going to send us a clean debt ceiling bill. [inaudible question] >> i called during the recess to senator leahy, chairman of the committee to tell him how impressed i was a speech here at georgetown. he is an avid second amendment
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rights guy. he is from vermont, and he has been forwarded indicating that there had to be more done. there was no reason to have multiple shells or certain weapons to go hunting. anyway, this is an issue we need to talk about and i hope what we can do is have a report by the committee and i expect to have an amendment process on the floor. [inaudible question] >> my response to that is the same response as this gentleman
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here. the other stuff, senator patty murray will be the next spokesperson on that. ..
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but it was nice yesterday. i thought it was a really good speech. people can criticize president obama about a lot of things, but not his ability to communicate. he communicated to the american people in message of hope, a massive action. we should move past the name-calling phase. one last question. [inaudible] >> i've had meetings during the recess, before the recess. we had another meeting today in within the next 24 to 36 hours we can get something we agree on. if not, we're going to move forward on what i think needs to be done. the caucus will support me on that. already imac [inaudible]
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>> tell me what you mean, debt limit. [inaudible] >> you just think you cannot do better question than they can? i repeat i'm glad the debt ceiling is not an issue we need to address now. the debt ceiling is not going to kick in for a while. we have many months of work through those and senator murray is going to be my lead on the budget. senator baucus is going to be my lead on the debt ceiling. [inaudible]
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>> aren't accurate or inaccurate schenck, president department vice president attended
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interfaith prayer service in washington. the sermon was delivered by methodist pastor, adam hamilton from kansas. this is an hour and a half. be smart used mac ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪
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>> it is their great pleasure to extend a warm and welcoming to everyone, to this house of prayer for all people. [speaking in spanish] >> although we have distinct faith traditions and speak different languages, we are united in our shared desire for peace and goodwill for the entire human community. [speaking in spanish] >> welcome to your house. god be merciful unto us and bless us. that your ways maybe not upon the earth.
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but the people praise you god. blessed be the one holy and loving god. >> look graciously, mighty god upon this land, where it is and pride, subdue it. where it is in need it. where it is an error, rectify it. there it is in default, restore
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it. and where it holds to that which is just and compassionate, toward the poor and vulnerable of every race and background in our nation, support it. in mad and matchless name of jesus, i pray, amen. ♪
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thoughts, nor your ways my ways says the lord. for the heavens are higher than they are, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thought, then your thought for its rain and snowfall from the how to and return not again bowater at the years, forth life and giving gross. seat for selling a bread for eating. so is my word that goes forth from my mouth. it will not return to me empty. but it will accomplish that which i have purposed and prosper and not for which i sent it. the word of the lord.
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>> thanks be to god. [speaking in native tongue] gracious is the lord and righteous. the lord watches over and calls upon us to watch over the msn. turn again to your rest, not share my soul. or you have rescued menelaus from dads, my eyes from tears
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and my feet from stumbling. i believed, even when i said i have been brought so low. how shall i repay the lord for all the good that he has done for me i will fulfill my guys to the lord in the presence of autocrats people.
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the governments of our nation. >> strength and hearts of our president, barack and our vice president, make them bold. for the work you have set before them, grant that wisdom to discern your will and to consider your word among the council they received. uphold them that they may discharge their duties in the full light of your divine grace. keep this nation under your care. give courage to the senators and members of the house of representatives, to hear the people's voice and to provide for the common good.
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give them the vision to care for your creation. lead them to willingly fulfill our obligations and responsibilities in the community of nations. keep this nation and your care. ..
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[silence] >> being near to all who call upon your name in the course of daily life, work and service. you call a gift as work for joy and for neighbors. make us glad and grateful for the strength to serve you and our neighbor. let us pray for those who through any form of surveys offer themselves and devotion to her nation. >> almighty god, we commend to your care in keeping all the men in women of our armed forces abroad.
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branstad, strengthened in every trial and temptation, defendant uses it danger in aero, sustain them in their courage and dedication. give us grace to do your will and all we undertake. god of creation, we pray for all who work in places of danger, who rushed in to bring health and comfort, who offer hope when others flee to safety. keep them under your watchful eye that they make teenagers dave lives, ease pain by their presence then lives and social order. give us grace to do your will and not that we undertake. almighty god, blessed are people who govern everyplace.
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still in the leaders of states and school board, counties and cities courts and agencies of the disposition to use their authority for the betterment of all people of this nation. in the name of jesus, give us grace to do your will and all that we undertake. >> give to other people of iowa and zero god the desire to serve you and their life and vocation. mere presence be manifest in all that we say and do. we've together every hand and commitment of every heart for we recognize our interdependent, responsibilities to one another
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in mutuality of our destiny. let us pray to the lord. >> expedia god. -- thanks be to god. [speaking in spanish] >> a reading from the gospel according to matthew. [speaking in spanish] jesus said, you are the salt of the earth. [speaking in spanish] but if salt has lost its taste, how can it saltiness be
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restored? it is no longer good for anything, but is thrown out and trampled underfoot. [speaking in spanish] you all are the light of the world. a city built on a hill and no one after lighting a lamp puts it under the bushel basket, but on the lampstand. and it gives light to all in the house. [speaking in spanish] in the same way, let your light shine before others say that they may see your good works and give glory to your father in heaven. [speaking in spanish] the word of the lord. >> thanks be to god.
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been praying a lot. but what you have a safety feature mark about people? the first thing was simply thank you. a friend of mine told me there's three reasons why people seek public office. the first is there some who want to feel importune and they want all the power to force them. the second group is folks over the little had. but there's a third group you really want make a difference. they want to change the world for the better and that represents you in the leadership in the country. we americans say it's seldom, but we should save far more often. thank you for giving yourselves for sacrificing living in glass houses can accept a barrage of criticism with little praise, for being willing to risk everything in order to serve this country. thank you.
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[applause] this month marks the 150th anniversary of the emancipation proclamation. abraham lincoln is abraham lincoln is known as the great emancipator. outside of the typical emancipation stirring the great emancipator there is a man named moe says. it's your second mrs. life, and they took lifted three ideas to misplace commensurate and leadership may speak to all of us today as leaders in our country and in some way to those of you in our land. i began apart and care there was moses. two things they learn. numbers tells us the men as this is a humble man, more than
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anyone else on the face of the earth. god chooses and uses those who humble themselves before him and others. young mary, mother of jesus in her bag because says god scatters their hearts, but lifts up the lowly. jesus teaches the same thing when he turns to disciples are during the night before you be crucified which one is the greatest. he says you don't understand. but the pickings at the world operate, but not how you operate. the first among you, the one who would be great would be your servant. and then he washed his disciples feet. mrs. humility was cut with a deep compassion courageous concern for the marginalized and oppressed. he was raised in paris palace. yet everything in and could want but when he saw the plate of hebrew slaves, he could not
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remain silent and they could not remain in the palace. ultimately he missed his leg to stand before pharaoh and demand fair release the slaves. he led them into the wilderness tours the promised land. this is what god looks for in the scriptures for every king, every rabbi, every leader. he looks for those who will take seriously the call to justice to do kindness, speak up for those who cannot speak up for themselves. james has it this way. true religion undefiled before god care for the widows and orphans and jesus says it all comes down to this, how did you respond to the needs of the least of these? this is america at her best this is america at her best. at her best very humble people and remember the call to compassion for the least of these coaches by the magnificent poem is etched inside the statue
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of liberty. give me your poor, huddled masses yearning, the wretched refuge from smes the homeless to me. i lift my lamp beside the door. humility encourages compassion are marginalized and oppressed are central to the hurting character of moses and are meant to be central to the nation. the second thing we learn is the importance of having a vision. professor john cotter noted two of the most important tasks of any leader are to cast a compelling vision for the future and inspire and motivate people to pursue it. the vision has to be a clear and compelling picture where you want to go. our preferred picture of the future. moses at the same set of egypt, but that is not enough.
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quickly they crumbled and desired to go to egypt where there is lakes and cucumbers. the wilderness was hard. moses had to constantly been the motivation. he said were marching to the promised land, a land flowing with alcan honey or we can worship freely, love, practice justice, where we can live in harmony. a compelling vision unifies us. it excites us come of these to a willingness to sacrifice and abuse them with a sense of purpose. kotter suggested the average american company struggled with the lack of vision, a compelling vision at least. as a pastor the same is true of local churches, congregations don't remember their purpose and they no longer see a compelling vision for the future. sadly this is true of america today. but their two-party system like
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mere political rhetoric were offered two different visions competing with one another, not one unifying vision. too many americans basilica house divided cannot stand it with vendor sells desperate longing to find common ground, to find a common vision to be one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for everyone. in this city and the discernment of people people who can help. this may be a more important issue than anything else you face. because until we resolve our differences here or at lease i unifying vision that brings us together, will find it are difficult to solve any other province are facing. dusty lanes, issues of health care. proverb goes to that efficient, the people perish. they don't literally perish, they just the current fight to
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become so polarized they can't get anything done. we are in need of a new, national vision, not one solely democratic reseller republican. we need at least one or two closer trains that americans on both sides come together and say that's what it means to be american. that's where we need to go. god has given you a unique gift, mr. president. unlike any other president you have the ability to cast a vision and inspire people. you should have been a preacher. [laughter] [applause] .actually has you exactly where he wants you. yesterday you begin to their division for us in your inaugural address those powerful and compelling. somewhere we've got to find and force one or two dreams or visions that people on the right and left, republicans and democrats come to say we can stack cans on this.
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even one or two. you hinted towards this yesterday. we have to remember a picture of the promised land. when we do that, anything is possible in america. i offer one small example of the church is giving kansas city. one of her visions is to address the root cause of poverty in kansas city star city might look more like the kingdom of god jesus preached about. when we began to ask how you address the root cause of poverty, what was i missed the one thing everyone agrees upon his early childhood education. so we had a vision of rupert together at public schools in kansas city to find a way to get the 2280 for children six elementary schools, where 90% are under for your reduced lunch program a chance for a better future. we partnered with schools and can instead be we don't have the answers. richest offer ourselves as
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serving. what you need? akamai how? 2500 volunteers in the schools could be built playgrounds at all six for they did not take us before. we repeated the inside of the schools where they didn't have money to fix schools. members volunteered to read to children. when we found that 1400 children were coming to school on monday hungry over the weekend because they didn't have reduced lunch program at home, we started providing that tax for children or snacks, 1400 our members packed and delivered the children come back to school monday said. but within 300 children sleep on the floor or couch in their homes have we provided 300 beds, delivered them, provided sheets and blankets and pajamas for these children. [applause] on christmas eve, the biggest night of the year at our church,
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we voted a number years ago to give the entire christmas eve offering to projects benefiting children in poverty and challenge numbers, which you give an amount equal to what she's been under a children are suffering. we could have two projects with a thousand orphans in malawi and have two projects benefiting the 2280 for children in kansas city. on christmas eve, our folks wanting to give $1,235,000 to these projects. [applause] cannot not to brag, but part of our congregation, but to say that's one congregation with foundation that unifies as a church where left and right, conservative, liberal, but somehow vicious posts together into the future and the excites and help change the world. last heard him regarding moses
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is despite great opposition to his leadership and despite feeling discouraged many times he never gave up. to be a leader is to have a criticism. if your sunday school teacher, they'll criticize you. if your supervisor donald, they'll criticize you. if you're preacher, i'll criticize you. and i don't know how yours outstanding. [laughter] not long after mrs. began to leak out of egypt they began to crumble against his leadership. for some they dislike policies so much hatred to vote them out of office. if they close so, but somehow managed to keep his job. in numbers chapter 11, we read he went on to the wilderness and mrs. hanssen prays god, just kill me now. [laughter] i don't want to do this anymore. it's too hard.
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this is one-time god did not answer mrs. prayer. instead he said in essence, get back to work. i need you. i'm reminded of a january 1957 dr. king received a threatening phone call. his children were asleep, wife was asleep. this was in his first threatening phone call. since the montgomery boycott, there have been many. on this night, he felt he could go on. he began to think of the way to gracefully bow out of leadership of the movement. at midnight peep out of the kitchen table and again to pray. i'm afraid, lord. the people are looking to me for leadership and if i stand before them without strength and courage, the two will falter. and at the end of my powers, god. i have nothing left. i've come to the point where he
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can't face it alone. the men he describes described something interesting to happen next. is that i experienced the presence of the divine has never experienced that before. it seemed as though i could hear the quiet assurance of an inner voice saying stand up for righteousness. stand up for truth and god will be at your side forever. imagine how the world would be different today if dr. king had not out of leadership because it got too hard. had he not stopped to pray that night to see god and took us reassurance, the theme of this year's inauguration was faith and the future of america. and the service we come together to acknowledge for america to in the future, we first need to find a deep and abiding faith in god. it is the state that colson compels us to humility and compassion and can learn the
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nobodies. it is a state that helps discover the visions worthy of our great nation and where the sacrifices we can make. is this faith that sustains us when we feel that giving up. pacific coast webcasting in the words of jesus who says i am with you always, even to the end of the age. and with a story. during dr. martin luther king we can certainly discuss listening to npr and they were conducting the interview with reverend billy kyles, who many of you knows that her king when he died on the balcony at the hotel. the interviewer asked what he be preaching on that weekend and reverend kyl told a story you've undoubtedly heard before that bears repeating today. he settled he telling the old story about robert louis stevenson. the 19th 19th century author once told how is the boy he'd been sitting in front of the window at nightfall watching the lamplighter that the street lamps.
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he would erect a ladder and climb up and then take it down and go to the next one and next one. his father worked in the averments and better looking out of the window? what is so fascinating? daddy, i'm watching the man out there knuckles in the darkness. there's a lot of darkness in our world. lead us to be a compassionate people, to be concerned for the marginalized. help us rediscover a vision for america, edition so compelling that unites us close to realize the potential of this country to be shining city upon a hill. when you feel your lowest, don't give up your bread upon the word. he will renew your strength you might be the same nation to knock holes in the darkness.
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make us always remember your generosity in constantly do your will. bless our land with honest industry and an honorable way of life. save us from violence, and discord and confusion, from pride and arrogance and from every evil way. make us who come from many nations, with many different languages a united people. defender of liberty is and give those whom we have entrusted with the authority of government the spirit of wisdom that there might be justice and peace in our land. when times are prosperous, let our hearts be thankful. and then trampled times, do not let our trust in you fail. in your holy name, we pray.
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>> as we join our prayers with those of the people across the nation, so we say each in our own language the prayer that jesus taught us. our father, who art in heaven, how would be thy name. thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. give us this day, our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. and that is not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. for thine is the kingdom and the power and the glory for ever and ever, amen.
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>> and give you peace. >> would you kindly join hands with your neighbor. but just look to god. and i dreamed a dream. i saw a land and on the hills walked men and women, boys and girls, hand in hand. they were diverse and backgrounds, variegated and their humanity, yet he looked into each other's eyes and they were not afraid.
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and so i said to the one standing behind me, what is this? the answer came, it is the kingdom of god. in view of his love and justice. and so i asked, where is this? the reply came, it exists already in the hearts of those who have the courage to believe and struggle and so i asked, when is this? the rain reply was this, when we learn this and alert of loving one another as sisters and brothers. search is just so glad to one another ever mindful of the realization of love in the realm
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of the republic is justice in peace. pricier survey, the reverend herbert at the king junior said for this very pulpit and his very last a sermon, we must all learn to live together as brothers and sisters or will all perish together as fools. what can we confess this day that we are dendrogram and destiny, caught up in an inescapable network of mutuality, what are their affects one directly affects all indirectly. and so this day we recommit ours goes to building the beloved community. gracious god, bless our president barack obama, our vice president, joseph biden with
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good health and every spiritual grace. plus our congress and our course. place these united states of america. transformed the jangly discourse of our nation to a beautiful symphony of the human family. and through us, maybe a thin on the families of the earth be blessed. to the god who loves us into freedom and free sets into loving, we offer this prayer, amen. [applause] these
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it's hard to realize now 25 years after apollo what the climate was like back then. and no way after the stalin
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years and the crew chef years and pounding the tissue in on the asserted they. soviets were very foreign to us after some of the things that happened, we thought they were pretty aggressive people. i will say monsters, but they probably thought we were monsters. so we very quickly broke through that because when you do with people in the same line of work as you are and you're around them for a short time, you discover they're human beings.
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>> this meaning focused on the budget and debt ceiling. [inaudible conversations] >> thank you for joining us. i know people are still coming in. we're going to get things started. in the interest of time we have to do this in an hour for another event in the room. i'm the director of digital media at the heritage foundation. we do this monthly, conversations with conservatives. heritage has been a proud gardener and today in conjunction with their bloggers preferring with conversations with conservatives today.
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we are by streaming the event and the heritage foundation page. those of you watching online can treat us as dj b.c. 113. we have four members so far. we'll have a few other service voluntarily. congressman david schweikert, congressman transfer from kansas, congressman duncan would stop carolina and congressman massie from kentucky. if the congressman would care to weigh in on some of the things on the floor this week, particular the no budget, no pay plan outlined at the close of last week coming out of your retreat. if you want to kick it off and share thoughts and how that is going to play out. the >> all just turned off by saying i spent 1364 days today. since the united states senate has an integral part of their job and i despise the budget for a nation.
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i came from the small-business community. i ran a business for 16 years and i had to do a budget every year. when i was working alone, i didn't have the police, budgeting was easier, but i still had to figure out where this classroom expenditures, where i anticipated to be in the coming year on the income and try make a balance. to come to washington d.c. dysfunctional senate senate, to see a harry agreed that senate that want to the most basic thing of governing and that his plan for the future. and for it to be 1364 days, i keep a running tally. everyday on my appointment card by seth gives me, we have at the top have made these expenses senate has passed a budget. last year stated the union was the was the 1000th day. the 1000th day since the senate had passed a budget.
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i worry but that had a thousand days on it. the itc were starting to shine that light on the fact the senate has not done its job for the last two years we've seen time after time for the house led by republicans have done the responsible thing for america, where it passed energy legislation. we passed it to jim legislation and set priorities for the nation, but they failed to go anywhere in the senate. with that, i'll yield to mr. huelskamp. >> thank you, congressman. we might come to a little different vote tomorrow on where we had to we've got to have a budget, but raising the debt ceiling for a budget to be named later is something i probably won't be would've 04. the were trying to follow that, understand we have a
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sequestered. the resequencing issue. only in washington could that be paris resequenced with going on here. one thing i still remain concerned about after two years up here come i still think it's dysfunctional on the senate side, dysfunctional when the president is going to be laid on his budget, but it's dysfunctional when just a few days ago the house ought to raise $50 billion is spent to, most of which won't be spent till 2015. all say when i visit that could situate at home, this is the worst they've come to expect in washington is from the dust settles at the end of the day, no matter who seems to be in charge, though going to borrow more money and will have hopefully that debate the next two or three months.
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but the sequestered by the way islam. there's no need to debate about sequestered. i don't know hollywood is suggesting there's a debate over sequestered. certainly we have an opportunity to force the senate to pass the budget. the bill does not require the house and senate to agree to a budget, the whole purpose of an 1874 act. we can't hold each other accountable for that. that should be an integral part as well. >> sequestered from 974 is a tremendous amount of time, something conservatives have been pushing for to shrink the size and scope of government you're a frequent have challenges ahead because the builder representative from kansas mentioned was the san diego. i put a an amendment that would cut $1 million. $1 million which was a plus up.
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it was an earmarked for legal services corporation. we were so your renown. we were taken away to earmark it failed on the house floor. if that's any indication of the resolve we have to surely can't spend a, i guess i'm doubtful. >> is there a commitment to balance the budget in 10 years? or will there be a budget to do that? >> this one's going to be really hard. sorry about that. i've actually had numbers who shall we say are those in power, those of the influence looked me in the eye and say this house will produce a budget that balances in 10 years and there's going to be some tough stuff and i, but it's reality.
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look, i know but should be you in here, many of you smart, good writers. time to take one step sideways to do with the reality of what's going on around us. we were doing that yesterday and we think as of yesterday we have 110 million americans on some sort of means to welfare program. january 1st make sure we get another 25 lien americans with obamacare moving into double for system. this is that medicare. this isn't social security. so you're heading towards a time where half your population is on one of these programs. this is justice going on. this is just happening around us. this is our world. unless we do something fairly dramatic, find some pet to be a player with a budget that says
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we can save yourselves and here's how we do it, what are you going to get a promise to do that? i may be about to make one of the hardest those of my life because i'm trusting that look in my eyes saying you're going to get your budget balanced in 10 years. imagine the firestorm that stirs to create to understand the reality of numbers. >> my daughter calls me a fresh more because i got here early. this is going to be the toughest to have had since i've got here because there's a lot of things in this strategy. theater should has assured us were in a path to a ten-year balanced-budget. they're going to introduce the previous benchmark was 2040.
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that's something to look forward to 2974, discretionary spending. the sequestered oaxacan. it is january 2nd. if we can get that to happen, at the end of the two-month extension, would get the senate on record. will make them produce. i'm still having reservations about raising the debt limit. it's a hard thing to do and the problem is you're willing to receive for three months unconditionally come away when too too racy for six? if you racy for six months in conditionally, three months from now, what principles keep you from raising again? to expose the reservation price is free and they'll come back to
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the house again. the really interesting just to see how many democrats who are clean extension debt limit. [inaudible] [inaudible] [inaudible] >> on this one i want to take
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you substantially different direction. i believe it might be just the reverse of how you articulate the question. we've actually had a blood of votes on amendments the last few years were restated condensed statements. bayfront statement bills. we haven't gotten much actually to happen. so now do you start to say, here's our philosophy. here's where we are. we understand what's going on, but we have a bunch of dead deniers in the senate. this debt devastation is coming. we have an obligation to find a way to actually get a piece of legislation where we get to bed the curve, something beyond a
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messaging bill to an accomplishment. that's going to be the battle. >> you asked if this is relative to the conservatives in the conference. most conservatives are willing to disband disbelief to put a conservative outcome after the past three. it's a path of leadership to get to the ten-year balanced-budget. we'll see if all these things come to pass and i certainly hope they do. more what the leadership will do. >> the test for conservatives across america to challenge leadership of this congress to truly embrace an idea of the
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balanced-budget and stand behind that and also shined the light of the fact are not doing their job. it's not just us and conservatives on the dicey. it's a test for leadership and i think it's a test for conservatives across america to really rally behind something and support something that has reforms to it a ten-year balance budget. >> is too much reading, waiting for republicans to control the senate. we did for republicans to the white house. there hasn't been enough persuading the american people. and it's very difficult to move a conservative agenda in the public is not behind you. right now i'm messaging is not
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very strong. that's a real problem for our party. >> first on the political reality we've had in the last three months, certainly pastored rule has an implied if this passes tomorrow, the boehner ruled but not applied dollar for dollar cuts for the debt ceiling the guided republicans in the last two years or decades and every system that flags for me. i think it's not republicans that are looking for relatives. i think his washington as a whole looking for relevance. we're running trillion dollars deficit is and would be the fifth straight year. the reality is s&p's downgraded. midis has sent the notice and we are still at the nsa's it's still 1995 where we are running
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dollars deficit. i hope it's not the case, but in the meantime all these games trying to figure out we frequent the, america's sunday aaa -- worthy of aaa rating. that's the serious reality. i hope that doesn't happen, but i don't know how but we can continue to go on. i don't think we have 10 years to somehow find a path to balance. we need to move my quick read. our mission to assessed the question, is very ten-year balanced-budget proposal in their and i don't know the answer. we don't have the numbers from the cbo, but our leadership has to have committed to that, different answers from different leaders, privately and publicly.
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if you want to balance in 10 years, you don't start at 10. he started seven and got to negotiate a president who never wants to balance the budget. usher's proposal was 26 years from the republicans. the rc was seven or the president does matter. that's a huge movement on the republican side as well. but it has to be done. i think we need to look at the budget of seven, eight years if her serious about when the conference of the senate and the budget process to benefit 10 years. there's big changes that will come come on the medicare side and that will be a bit, to exchange on the house side. >> we do have an online question coming in white couple of your references conversations about ten-year balance. i haven't visited public announcements that have come up?
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>> i think i have been somewhat public and the become much more public. there's more to this. it's also that 974 number that will continue to stay. they somewhat comes back to your question. relevance right now may also be for those in info in comments is the power in our leadership than they look members like myself in the eye and say here's where this goes. we're going to have the budget committee produced a ten-year balanced-budget. we are going to stand behind the dollar amounts of the sequestration legislation. we're going to hold firm. in many ways, and 90 days is to be the ultimate test of the relevancy of those we entrust
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with this leadership positions and i believe there'd be to kia if they squandered this. [inaudible] [inaudible] >> i'm going to lean no one everything. until i'm persuaded to vote yes. i think that's the responsible thing to do with the legislature. you should only started on the persuaded to vote yes and i'm not persuaded yet. but i'm open-minded. >> i'm trying to get ts but i'm not there. again, i'm going to vote on principle and i understand the principle of the next three, but
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i believe everybody teaches standup to the list are having a hard time at the principle for this vote standing on its own. >> over the weekend and ideas, but i'm siding that boren decided because we've got the text of the bill over the weekend. we start asking questions. there are questions that have come to mind. if i get the sense that appropriately, which i have to do this afternoon, it could change my mind, but i'm probably just undecided. >> part of the question is what assurance is concert at the ten-year plan is referenced. i'd like to be 10 years. you can't start a 10 if you want to admit that 10. secondly, budget is essentially a messaging document under the house is serious about a ten-year plan, it's time to bring it tax bill to the floor and i would have hoped as it
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would actually write text on the floor and run a medicare bill. the tax plan in master's budget was about one page. not even one page. there's a lot more heavy lifting than it when tax plan and i think republicans could do ourselves could by providing leadership, outlining what the policy looks like i'm passing it through the house. same as medicare and set medicare entitlement reform. medicare and medicaid and social security. it's another thing to pass things on the floor and it's time we actually took that chance to put up over four in a detailed manner because these are very serious times. it scans of their credit worthiness long-term. >> it's important to point out one of the reasons leadership t-shirt years to balances the recent tax increases.
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so it's not just a structural change in what were doing. it's tax increases. if taxes were lowered again, that might change the picture. i think we haven't been given enough assurances that once you reach the balance within 10 years that she stay at balance or near balance and not just bounce off the bottom and go back up to deficit because it's possible you could down figure 10 and have deficits go on until you're 20 or 25. so it's important to understand both structural issues. [inaudible]
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[inaudible] >> unfortunately, our strategy right now is to play rope-a-dope until 2014. we need to go on the offensive stand on their print the posts. the spending happens unless it's approved by the house. we need to be ready to stand firm on that. i wouldn't take a defensive posture, even though he's very bolded statement yesterday. >> mr. labrador, we were lonely without you. >> how many of you didn't listen, but just read the president's speech? if you sit and read it on paper and try not to hurt in his voice, but read the words, in many ways separate the exact same speech dozens and dozens of times from hard left at

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